Comments on: Meeting the Master http://darvish.wordpress.com/2006/06/21/meeting-the-master/ "I will walk a thousand leagues in falsehood, that one step of the journey may be true." - Junayd Fri, 17 May 2013 08:00:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: kevin http://darvish.wordpress.com/2006/06/21/meeting-the-master/#comment-325 Mon, 07 Aug 2006 16:32:57 +0000 https://darvish.wordpress.com/2006/06/21/meeting-the-master/#comment-325 Surat Al Kahf (18):23 : “And never say of anything, ‘I shall do such and such thing tomorrow. Except (with the saying): ‘If Allah wills!’ And remember your lord when you forget…”

This sura has much deeper meaning. Saying a word with the lips has no comparison to saying a word with the heart. The sufi says “inshallah” with his or her heart over and over, every moment, knowing deeply that there is no will but The Will. One can also attest to the saying “inshallah” silently with actions and deeds.

But saying “inshallah” with the lips can also have profound effects and serve as a resevoir of remembrance.

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Irving, thank you for your beautiful narrative.

Ya Haqq from Boston!

]]> By: Ismail Radpour http://darvish.wordpress.com/2006/06/21/meeting-the-master/#comment-82 Thu, 22 Jun 2006 11:50:11 +0000 https://darvish.wordpress.com/2006/06/21/meeting-the-master/#comment-82 Ya Haqq

That’s was too beautiful , also your explicate of a ordinary event. May God give me a help that I meeting the master of masters , givver of lights , Dr. Javad Nurbakhsh.

Haqq

]]> By: Aaminah http://darvish.wordpress.com/2006/06/21/meeting-the-master/#comment-81 Wed, 21 Jun 2006 22:46:49 +0000 https://darvish.wordpress.com/2006/06/21/meeting-the-master/#comment-81 Asalaamu alaikum Matthew.

Most respectfully,

Are you not aware that sometimes one’s Shaykh will tell you something as a test or a means to an end in learning something that perhaps is not revealed at the present moment? Are you implying that brother Irving should have corrected his esteemed Shaykh? Aren’t you judging the Shaykh (and brother Irving) based on one small matter, of which you can never know the full purpose or intent?

While I do not apply the term Sufi to myself and know that I will probably never attain that level, I would also never be so rude as to correct my Shaykh in any way. What he calls his murshid is between his heart and Allah, and I am not one to question it. And it may be that it is meant as an encouragement on the path, rather than a literal title.

While you are very concerned with the adab of remembering to say “inshaAllah”, alhamdulAllah that you are so concerned, you have perhaps neglected the adab due to one’s teacher and guide, as well as to one’s fellow dervish who has accompanied you in this situation. It is not for you or I to understand the meaning behind the Shaykh’s teaching; that gift was for brother Irving. If by brother Irving’s sharing of the tale you are able to also get something, alhamdulAllah, but it may not be the same lesson. I found a very different kernal of truth within the tale than what you apparently saw.

]]> By: Irving Karchmar http://darvish.wordpress.com/2006/06/21/meeting-the-master/#comment-80 Wed, 21 Jun 2006 22:40:40 +0000 https://darvish.wordpress.com/2006/06/21/meeting-the-master/#comment-80 Salaam Dear Brother Matt:
You are quite correct, that is exactly what I thought also. I am as far from being a Sufi as the earth is from the sun. To a Sufi such as Dr. Nurbakhsh, who has no will of their own, but only God’s will, it may apply, as he would never forget Allah. I have thought a lot about him saying that over the years, and I think he did it for a specific purpose. Every time I say I will do something, or be somewhere, I think of that time and add, inshallah, even if I am writing a letter or an email. His saying that instilled the words in me very strongly, where I did not think to say them very often beforehand.

Such is the Master’s attention to the heart of a darvish. He read my heart and knew what to do and say to be of benefit, especially since there were hundreds of darvishes there at the time, and I never got a chance to sit with him again. A twisted Knee and torn pants as a reminder to stop thinking of myself. Inshallah, to think always of God.

Alhamdulillah!

and Ya Haqq

]]> By: matthew http://darvish.wordpress.com/2006/06/21/meeting-the-master/#comment-79 Wed, 21 Jun 2006 22:20:47 +0000 https://darvish.wordpress.com/2006/06/21/meeting-the-master/#comment-79 Salams!

hmm

so, Almighty God Specifically Requests to say Godwilling for any action in the future

Surat Al Kahf (18):23 : “And never say of anything, ‘I shall do such and such thing tomorrow. Except (with the saying): ‘If Allah wills!’ And remember your lord when you forget…”

do you take the word of your sheikh over that of your Lord? of course not, so what’s really the issue?

that being cut by an assumption strikes me oddly,

additionally I imagined, saying “but I am not a sufi, so insahllah has more adab before Him (Glorifed Be He!) for me in my current state”

I could never assent to the implication that I was a sufi off the bat!

no offence intended brother Irving but what arrived in my soul immediately on reading your story

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